Me and Nikki Black Art Me and My Best Friend Black Art

A Civil Rights activist and world-renowned poet, Nikki Giovanni's journeying led her from Knoxville, TN to the forefront of the belatedly 1960s Blackness Arts Movement. On the path she savage in love with hospitals and space, befriended gangsters and nuns, and determined that writing is not well-nigh keeping score - simply it is most making a bespeak.

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Megan Hayes: Yolande Cornelia Giovanni, who was dubbed Nikki as a baby by her sis, is a world-renowned ceremonious rights activist, author, educator, and orator. Born in Appalachia on June 7, 1943, she is the kid of Knoxville Higher graduates Gus and Yolande Giovanni. She grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio and she and her sister spent summers in Knoxville with grandparents Professor J.B. and Lavinia Watson. Giovanni gained early admittance to Fisk University, her grandfather's alma mater, and graduated with honors in 1968. She presently later on published her outset book of poesy, Black Feeling, Blackness Talk, which led to her being called the princess of black poetry. She holds the position of Academy Distinguished Professor in the Department of English at Virginia Tech and has been hailed as ane of the dazzling flames that lights the path to wisdom for all who want to take the walk.

Megan Hayes: She has been recognized as a national treasure and categorized as i of Oprah Winfrey's 25 Living Legends. Giovanni has earned vii NAACP Image Awards, a Grammy nomination, the Rosa L. Parks Woman of Courage Laurels, and the Langston Hughes Medal for Verse and has been a finalist for the National Book Honor. She has authored three New York Times and Los Angeles Times best-sellers. She is a female parent and a grandmother who likes to cook, travel, and dream. Dr. Nikki Giovanni, welcome to Appalachian State University and welcome to Audio Furnishings.

Nikki Giovanni: Oh, I'm glad to exist back.

Megan Hayes: We're then glad to have y'all. One of the things that I've heard many times is that you're the princess of black poesy. How did yous come to exist known as the princess of black poetry?

Nikki Giovanni: I tell you I have no thought. I don't even remember how information technology came up. I hateful I guess I was besides young to be a queen. I don't know. Everybody comes up with ... Merely I had nothing ... It wasn't me.

Megan Hayes: Right. Right.

Nikki Giovanni: And it wasn't what ultimately would become my people.

Megan Hayes: Correct.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah.

Megan Hayes: Do yous remember at what signal people started saying that about you lot?

Nikki Giovanni: I recollect that my greatest gift is that I really don't remember things. I forget. I permit things go. So I don't. A poem that I volition share today, Ego Tripping, when I outset printed that, published it in a book, the New York Times put it in ... It was on the forepart page of their art section and information technology was illustrated. I accept it ... I had cutting information technology out and I've kept it forever. I think it was in '68 or '69. That I know.

Megan Hayes: Correct.

Nikki Giovanni: But I endeavor not to ... I've known a lot of famous people and they've let their career and their life and their talent control them, and they've ruined their lives in many, many respects. They accept go unhappy because they're trying to alive up to something that doesn't brainstorm to brand sense. And so a lot of times, people will say, "Oh, I saw you lot 20 years ago," and I'1000 like, "Yes, yeah." I don't remember and I don't have whatsoever reason to. I really don't remember Ego Tripping. I'm very close to remembering information technology, but I don't actually recall it. If y'all don't allow your past merely sort of go, you'll always be stuck with trying to recreate it. We've lost quite a few people because they're trying to be something that somebody else who doesn't know them thinks they should be. Does that make sense?

Megan Hayes: It sure does.

Nikki Giovanni: Yes.

Megan Hayes: Aye, for certain. Well since you referenced it, this might be a good fourth dimension to read Ego Tripping. Would you be willing to practice that for usa?

Nikki Giovanni: I'd exist delighted.

Megan Hayes: I would be delighted to hear it.

Nikki Giovanni: I was born in the Congo. I walked to the Fertile Crescent and built the Sphinx. I designed a pyramid and then tough that a star that only glows every 100 years falls into the middle, giving divine perfect lite. I am bad. I sat on the throne drinking nectar with Allah. I got hot and sent an ice age to Europe to cool my thirst. My oldest daughter is Nefertiti. The tears from my birth pains created the Nile. I am a cute adult female. I gazed on the forest and burned out the Sahara Desert. With a packet of goat's meat and a change of dress, I crossed it in ii hours. I am a gazelle and then swift, so swift you can't grab me. For a birthday present when he was 3, I gave my son Hannibal an elephant. He gave me Rome for Female parent's Day. My strength flows ever on.

Nikki Giovanni: My son Noah built new/ark and I stood proudly at the helm equally nosotros sailed on a soft summer day. I turned myself into myself and was Jesus. Men intone my loving name. All praises. All praises. I am the i who would save. I sowed diamonds in my background. My bowels deliver uranium. The filings from my fingernails are semiprecious jewels. On a trip north, I caught a cold and blew my olfactory organ, giving oil to the Arab world. I am and then hip even my errors are right. I sailed westward to reach east and had to round off the earth as I went. The hair from my head thinned and gold was laid across three continents. I am so perfect, so divine, so ethereal, so surreal, I cannot be comprehended except by my permission. I mean I can fly like a bird in the sky.

Megan Hayes: That made me tear up a little bit.

Nikki Giovanni: I love that. Oh, thank you. It's a lot of fun.

Megan Hayes: Oh, information technology is a lot of fun and it'due south and then much fun to hear you read it.

Nikki Giovanni: Give thanks you. Thank you.

Megan Hayes: Thank you.

Nikki Giovanni: That was a fun poem. You know how you write something? And the first time I read this verse form though, it was in Boston. I was at BU. That's something I remember. I read information technology and people, kids, and they were continuing up, "Yes." I was thinking, "Wow. Maybe there'south something else." I read it the adjacent time and it was like, "Wow. Maybe there'south more to this poem than I know," because I was just writing information technology as one of the "I am." I of the things that you lot're involved in when you're doing these things, y'all don't really know what you're having until you have it. If y'all're intelligent, you go on. That was an awkward style of saying it ... But that'southward what you endeavor to do.

Megan Hayes: Right.

Nikki Giovanni: Y'all savour it then you go on and see what's coming next. So even now if you threw all my books upwardly in the air, it would be very easy to tell which came showtime and which came terminal because I've continued to grow. I think growth is important.

Megan Hayes: Is it fun to go dorsum and relive some of those older poems?

Nikki Giovanni: I don't practice that much, going back and ... Every now then ... I haven't reread Ego Tripping in a long fourth dimension. I mostly continue. This is history and I think information technology's quite true. I think it's kind of wonderful to think that of course I can fly similar a bird in the sky. I'thousand a space freak and there's an awful lot of space in all of my books. There'southward a lot of infinite and a lot of quilts. As somebody else pointed out recently, it's an awful lot of food.

Megan Hayes: Yeah.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah. Well I like to cook. My granddaughter came down last ... Well I live in Virginia. Came down concluding year and I thought, "Well I'm a grandmother and I have responsibilities here," because when I saw her when she was a petty girl, she would bounce on the bed and you lot'd read books to her and things like that. I said, Kai, we have to teach you how to cook chitlins." My other cousin was like, "Oh, God. I hate those things." I said, "No, she's got to learn." So when Kai was down, I taught her to turn them inside out and pull the ... Kai will swallow annihilation so I was actually proud of that. So we sat there and nosotros ate the chitlins. I only have one other girl cousin, and Allison won't eat chitlins. Jenny won't eat chitlins. They were similar, "Ew, we're not going to eat them." Kai and I were looking at them similar, "Nosotros don't intendance."

Megan Hayes: There y'all go. Pass it on.

Nikki Giovanni: Oh, yeah. Yous've got to.

Megan Hayes: For sure. Can you lot talk for a moment about your Appalachian roots and influences and what they've meant to your piece of work and your life?

Nikki Giovanni: Well I'm a Knoxvillianby birth. I retrieve that the Appalachian community is being robbed correct now of its great importance in American history. Well, I dislike Trump and dislike would be just such a overnice discussion to use. I hate the way that he's teaching people to hate. If you wait at the Appalachian Trail, if we start it right there in Alabama, you lot start a little scrap further over and you come all the mode up, you lot come up to Maine, what that trail is going to do, these slaves who were escaping are going to come up and then it'south 2 things going on. The white people who are living here are being a friend to those escaping for freedom, but we besides have to remember that the reason they are there is that the British were kicking them out. They wanted to go rid of the Scots . That'southward why everybody'southward Mac something. They wanted to go rid of the Scots and wanted to get rid of the Irish. We have to remember you lot could go to Boston and I collect things, just there'southward a sign, used to be signs in Boston, "No Irish or Negros demand utilize."

Nikki Giovanni: So we know that these ii communities had a lot in common. I recollect that when yous expect at the great history of Appalachia, we know that the Civil War would exist, would have been lost if West Virginia had non broken upwards, then Virginia would have gone over to the Ohio River. It would have changed the war. So in many, many respects, Westward Virginia saved the nation.

Nikki Giovanni: Of class, at that place's a lot of hatred of Appalachians and there are stories to be told in Appalachia, stories of Appalachian women, the quilts that they hung out. I of the reasons that the enslaved who were escaping knew that this was a safety house is that the Appalachian women because the men weren't doing it. They were working the fields. Information technology's the Appalachian women hung quilts out. So at that place's a lot of great history here that keeps being smothered because they're trying to make white people be ashamed of the fact that they stood up for the Constitution. I'm always sorry to hear that because these are great people. They're great and they should be celebrated.

Megan Hayes: The poem, If I Have to Hospital, speaks a bit to your Appalachian connection. Would yous heed reading it for us?

Nikki Giovanni: I'd exist delighted. That'due south the truth considering to me, I've had plenty. I've had cancer. Then I've been in the infirmary, and hospitals remind me of my grandmother.

Nikki Giovanni: If I have to hospital, please allow it exist in Appalachia with nasal voices and soft smiles. Are the hospitals and then efficiently run because of the Hatfields and the McCoys? A lot of exercise fourth dimension? My arm is tattooed by a nurse who can't observe my vein. I am here considering I tin can't recall. A balmy seizure like a little bit of in love being palpitations. I don't know why. Nosotros don't know why. The medicine for love is sexual practice. The medicine for seizure is ... Somehow, it doesn't residue. Hospitals are similar grandmothers. How's my babe this morning? And they give y'all food you don't want to eat and needles that hurt and y'all smile because you know they know you want to get well without somehow having to exit them.

Megan Hayes: Give thanks you.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah. I was in the infirmary. Well I had a seizure. I had lung cancer and a couple of years later, I had a seizure. My mom was still here when I had the lung cancer, and she came, the family and my mother and my sister were here. They came to take me out of the hospital. "We're going to take you habitation. You're going to exist all correct. Nosotros're going to take you lot home." I was really crying. Momma said, "Well why are you lot crying?" I said, "I'g going to have to leave." I love hospitals. If I have to hospital, delight permit information technology be in Appalachia.

Megan Hayes: Yep.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah.

Megan Hayes: Yeah. Then I'm the girl of a teacher and an artist and I think information technology takes incredible courage to exercise both, just I'd like to ask you about being an creative person and in particular when you knew that you had, I judge, made it. What was information technology? When did yous realize you could do this work that yous loved fifty-fifty if information technology wasn't an exact moment? What was that feeling? Because I recollect a lot of young artists would like to hear too how you lot made that happen?

Nikki Giovanni: I think a lot of people have a dissimilar thought of what's important. Again, I'1000 non all that humble, just the reality is still the career I have chosen, if I may use that, is 1 in which you're never going to be recognized. Most of the slap-up classics are 200 and 300 years old. The people who wrote them take no idea they wrote classics. Nosotros can go back 1000 years or then. The keen philosophers had no idea that nosotros'd still be quoting them. If you're going to be a author, you have to let that get. The kids today are thinking, "Oh, I desire to exist a writer. I desire a number one best-seller." Well almost of the crap that's number one all-time-seller is not worth reading. Nobody remembers it. I teach at Virginia Tech. We showtime school the day after Martin Luther Rex holiday, and I will go into class and I will say to them, because I teach writing grade, "What's the number one all-time-seller in America?" Do y'all know that not one of my students will know.

Megan Hayes: I don't know.

Nikki Giovanni: You see what I'thou maxim?

Megan Hayes: Yeah.

Nikki Giovanni: So why would you endeavor to do something that you don't even know what it is? Why don't you lot try to say rather, "I desire to write something that is meaningful to me that's the best that I tin do?" Anne Frank didn't know she was writing a bully book. You don't know what your doing is going to be what it is. So, why would you try to do something like that? This is not football or basketball. This is not a game where you go points. We're trying to make a point about the world in which we live.

Megan Hayes: From a young historic period, you were encouraged to be an activist past your grandmother. You lot've certainly seen and taken part in key moments in the history of the Civil Rights Movement. I'm curious about what similarities and differences you come across in the activism of today and the activism of the '50s and '60s.

Nikki Giovanni: I recollect the kids practise what they want to practice, and I've been asked only because of my age I'm sure, "What do y'all call back virtually the Me Besides Movement or the Black Lives Matter Movement?" I call back the kids do what ... Nosotros did what we wanted to do, and people like Roy Wilkins who was so the head of NAACP, he didn't similar what Martin Luther King was doing with marching, going around gathering crowds. He idea that was a bad idea. Every generation thinks that the younger generation is doing the wrong thing. It'south the nature of what it is. I think that the kids are doing a corking task and that's the truth. I have my Blackness Lives Matter t-shirt and I've worked with them when they've asked me to and I've been very proud to. Every generation as well knows what they want to get done.

Nikki Giovanni: So I think the rest of usa ... I hateful for me, what's of import is that I become my champagne and sit in my backyard with my fish. Nosotros look at the globe ... And I'm saying nosotros. I'm 76. We expect at the world different and we've changed the world. My generation has to remind the younger generation because we grew up in segregation and we took segregation down. So what we handed the side by side generation, my son'southward generation, for instance, is an unsegregated globe or a desegregated world, all the same you desire to expect at it, but it doesn't mean a world without racism.

Megan Hayes: Right.

Nikki Giovanni: So there'due south still a struggle with how practise yous get rid of your bones racism. Of form I think that a lot of hatred is being encouraged correct now and I recall that that's not a good idea. I hate to see people just going around shooting people for no reason. I think guns are a bad idea no matter what anybody says. "Well if I didn't have a gun ..." No, none of that. Guns are a bad idea and we should accept been moving beyond that. I'm lamentable that the Un doesn't piece of work whatever better than it does because I recollect that nosotros all should recognize this is planet Earth and it'due south very, very piece of cake to meet that if we don't detect a way to become along, we're going to lose it. Just I think what will be interesting because I'll be gone is who's going to be the final human beings that going to sort of await around and realize, "Oh, it didn't work. This experiment didn't work."

Nikki Giovanni: If God called and said, "Hullo, you know, Nik, what do you think? Should the humans continue?" I'd accept to be honest with him because He's God and, "No, God it didn't work. You might look at another planet. Y'all got nine here in this galaxy. You might want to wait at another galaxy because this isn't working." I call up it'southward a shame because I don't call back that in 2020 we should be afraid of each other, I don't think that we should hate each other. I but retrieve that nosotros should be a fiddling further along. I actually do. This whole idea of "I'm afraid of somebody" or "I want this property to be mine," World is likewise modest. Speaking of my granddaughter, she's a great kid. Nosotros're going up to the Arctic Circle.

Megan Hayes: Oh, wow.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah. Yep. I'm then excited because we take discovered, we, being the scientists, have discovered a worm 20,000 feet under the ice there. I wanted to see the worm. Kai says, "Grandma Nik, are yous still in dear with the worm?" I'grand all the same in love with the worm. I said, "Kai, I'grand going to get upward the Chill Circumvolve if you'd similar to get."

Megan Hayes: Oh, my gosh.

Nikki Giovanni: She goes, "Yep, I would like to go." So she and our cousin Allison and my friend Jenny, nosotros're all going up to the Chill Circle with the BBC which is really, actually lucky because the BBC has a nuclear sub. Information technology's merely a footling fun nuclear sub. And so we'll be able to go down to see how far downwardly we can go.

Megan Hayes: Oh, my gosh. How incredible.

Nikki Giovanni: I'm excited. I'm really, actually excited. I really am to accept Kai because it'due south not something you're going to practise once again.

Megan Hayes: That'due south going to be amazing.

Megan Hayes: Well you lot have a bat named later you lot. Maybe they'll name the worm after you. That could be really cool.

Nikki Giovanni: That would be actually ... I exercise have ... Nobody knows that. I have a new book that'll be out in the fall and it's chosen Make Me Rain. If you're a jazz fan, you know it as it'due south an old jazz melody. I take to write or I was proverb to Rachel, my editor, "I'grand going to redo my bio." One of the things I want to put on the bio, I want the bat on the bio.

Megan Hayes: Oh, it'southward then cool. It'due south like you're a superhero.

Nikki Giovanni: Yes.

Megan Hayes: I love it.

Nikki Giovanni: I like bats. I thought, "Aye, allow'southward put the bat on." Y'all know Toni Morrison. Toni won the Nobel. When she did, the Washington Mail service called me. They called a bunch of people, only they called me and said, "Would y'all give u.s.a. a quote on Ms. Morrison?" I said, "Well I'yard actually thrilled first of all, which I am because I dearest Toni." I said, "Simply a lot of people take won the Nobel for Literature, but I have a bat named after me." This reporter said, "You lot're kidding?" I said, "No, I got a bat named after me." And then she looked information technology all up considering the bat had only recently ... Dr. Baker at the University of Texas, that's what he did. The bat is in Chile. Chile I guess it is. If you lot go back and pull upward the Washington Post, 1 side volition say, "Morrison wins Nobel for Literature. Giovanni has bat."

Megan Hayes: I dear it.

Nikki Giovanni: Toni said, "You're crazy." I said, "Yeah, probably am, just everybody got what you got. I got something ..." That's one reason you love her because she was just a special person. Aye.

Megan Hayes: I had the incredibly good fortune to interview Julian Bond the year that he died, and I recently saw part of an interview that he did with you. One thing that struck me in that interview is you talked about making mistakes and picking up and moving forward. In that context, yous were talking about writing. He said the aforementioned in the context of talking about activism. So I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about but the significance of making mistakes.

Nikki Giovanni: Well actually there'southward one part if y'all wanted to be similar ... I don't even know what the word would exist... "about it." In that location'due south no such matter as a mistake. It's but a way that you learn something. There's a reason pencils accept erasers. It's not because you make mistakes because that's the finish of that and you learn something. We all loved Julian by the way. Julian was a wonderful, wonderful human being and nosotros miss him a lot. I don't remember the interview, but I'm sure that he and I would both retrieve the same affair. Julian and of course John Lewis and we're worried about John, John is our good friend. Nosotros're very much worried most how he feels. And Bob Moses. I don't know if y'all know Dr. Moses, a mathematical genius. He's up at MIT. Bob is even so with usa.

Nikki Giovanni: You simply look at the courage of those young men, just looking at what they did to stand upwards to assist alter America, the belief that they had and I guess mayhap fifty-fifty I should say, "we" because I had the belief also, just I didn't have, I didn't have the kind of courage that they had, and the belief nosotros had in the Constitution and in making the Constitution live. That was simply a wonderful matter. Nosotros'll be in Atlanta celebrating John. I was so glad when they called, when Linda Smith chosen me. She said, "Nosotros're going to celebrate John." I said, "I'll be in that location if I accept to walk. I'll be there," because you just hate it that everybody waits until you're dead and so they say what a wonderful person you were. It kind of makes a petty more sense to do it while y'all're live-

Megan Hayes: Right.

Nikki Giovanni: ... and you tin hear.

Megan Hayes: Sure.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah.

Megan Hayes: Yep. In recent years, you've moved into a phase of life during which your matriarchs and many of your mentors have died and you lot became the dame.

Nikki Giovanni: Yes.

Megan Hayes: What has it meant to you to take on that role?

Nikki Giovanni: Excuse me for laughing. I was the baby in the family.

Megan Hayes: Correct.

Nikki Giovanni: I looked around. Well my male parent had died, but then my mother died in June and my sister died in July and my Aunt Anne died in that October. And so Agnes and I who were the babies in the family in the Watson line were both saying like, "Oh, my goodness." Then Ag died and without realizing, my cousin Allison called and said, "Well what are we going to do?" I actually forget. "What are nosotros going to do virtually ..." I said, "Well why are yous calling?" We called her Pat. I said, "Pat, why are you calling me?" She said, "Well, y'all're the elderberry." It was similar, "Let me become pour myself a glass of wine-"

Megan Hayes: Right.

Nikki Giovanni: ... because information technology dawned on me. I of a sudden became the oldest person and you look around and it's not difficult like, "Oh, my God. This is such a burden." It's only that all of a sudden you lot realize, "Oh, I take responsibilities," that there are things that you lot never had to recollect almost that now yous accept to say, "Well I wonder how she'd practise this. I wonder." So when Pat calls and it's like, "Well I need somebody to come up ..." You tin tell when people ... "I'll exist out. I'll be on the airplane." I get out to California to ... All of a sudden you realize, "Oh, I'm the one that'south supposed to be the grandmother." I am a grandmother. That's why she's going to the Arctic Circle with us.

Megan Hayes: Yeah.

Nikki Giovanni: She went to ... All of united states of america went down to Antarctica and of course yous have to accept ... "Pat, you have to come because ..." All all of a sudden you lot realize that, "Oh, I'm the elder."

Megan Hayes: Yous're the one.

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah, it'due south very foreign.

Megan Hayes: Well I'd like to ask you lot to read a verse form well-nigh your mother if you would delight. I Married My Mother.

Nikki Giovanni: Oh, yeah. Considering when my sister, when my male parent got sick, I went back home and I lived with Mommy for like 20 years. We moved to Virginia together. All of us moved to Virginia together.

Nikki Giovanni: I know crying is a skill. I automatically wipe my optics fifty-fifty though I know crying is a skill. Perchance I volition learn. My mother did when she thought I was comatose. I remember my sister did sleep, simply slumber is as difficult to me as crying. I laugh hands and I smiling and withhold whatever true feelings except once I cruel in love with my 8th-grade instructor and spent most of my life trying to feel safe once more. Though possibly I'm prophylactic now after nearly 30 years which is equally long as I lived with my mother. Maybe that'southward not a poem. Perchance that's something else. Possibly I just wanted to show my male parent that he needn't be brutal. Maybe I merely enjoyed ownership the house she had to live in, showing her she should take married me instead of him. Or perhaps since nosotros will all soon be gone, I should exist happy I found my mother and someone else who loves me. What else actually matters?

Nikki Giovanni: That'due south the truth. I used to say that to mom. I said, "You should have married me?" Gus was cruel, just that'd exist a whole discussion. I said, "You should have married me instead of Gus." I called him Gus. I said, "Yous should have married me instead of Gus." She would say, "Well baby, if I hadn't married Gus, I couldn't take gotten you." I said, "Well we need to written report how man egg needs to exist able to come out. Everything else can get an egg out. Chicken gets an egg out." I dear the blue egg. Don't you just dear the blue eggs?

Megan Hayes: Yeah, I do. Well my final question for you, and I capeesh all the fourth dimension that y'all've spent with me today, is that you've had so many successes in your life. Of what are you the almost proud?

Nikki Giovanni: I'yard proud that I'g still sane. I think that sanity is of import. I'grand proud that I have enough sense to love the people who love me and I dislike the people who dislike me. And so I retrieve that that keeps me sane. I take not many friends, but the few I accept are good. I'm proud of that. I actually do similar my career. My son is a good man and there are not that many good men, period. Thomas is a adept father. He's divorced from my granddaughter's mother which is good because if it doesn't work, yous should get rid of it. Kai is a prissy child. And then yous're just glad that you lot're live and there's a song, "I'g glad that I'm living and lucky to be." And so it's non pitiful or apprehensive.

Nikki Giovanni: I didn't always want to exist rich. I merely want to be able to pay my bills, the things that people want. My auto is 11 years one-time. They telephone call y'all know. I bulldoze a Beemer and they call y'all and say, "You really should buy a new ..." I say, "Why don't you people terminate this?" The car I had before that I kept for 20 years. Then I'm going to continue this car until I don't drive anymore. The firm is paid for. I like my car. My dog gets his shots. What more could I want?

Megan Hayes: What more can you want?

Nikki Giovanni: Yeah.

Megan Hayes: Well Dr. Nikki Giovanni, what a pleasure it has been to have yous here today. Gosh, and so an honor to have you lot on our campus. I just desire to cheers for sharing your thoughts and sharing your spirit and being with us on this campus.

Nikki Giovanni: I'k glad to be back. I've been here a couple of times. This is not my offset time.

Megan Hayes: Yeah. Yeah.

Nikki Giovanni: Thanks. I think that we in Appalachia are very important and I'll exist glad when we repossess that slap-up history of ours here in Appalachia.

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